Cowboy Denny

What makes Drummond Island the ORV paradise of Michigan? Is it the miles of routes and trails resting beneath the tree canopy? Is it the scenic view of wildlife? The variety of trails and routes suitable for experts and novices alike? The easily accessed food, lodging, entertainment, service, or emergency aid? The clear signage indicating location, destination, and points of interest? It’s a riding adventure and the trails are fun. The off road vehicle (ORV) trails on Drummond are some of the most scenic and rugged in Michigan. Drummond’s DNR sponsored trail system is the largest closed loop ORV system in the state. With over 60 miles of ATV trails and 40 miles of ORV routes there’s a lot to explore! 2020-difficultymap-updated6-22-20.pdf

Fun Park worth checking out. The Mounds is open 365 days a year; however, from March 15 through May 15, all trail areas of the Mounds are closed except for the 8-acre scramble area which is located to the North West of the ticket booth. Trucks are not permitted. ATVs, UTVs and dirt bikes are allowed. All areas of the Mounds will reopen to all vehicles the morning of May 16 Hours: Monday – Saturday: 8:00 am – Sunset Sunday: 10:00 am – Sunset 2020-Mounds-map-and-rules.pdf

ALABAMA Gray Rock ORV -very cool! Usually 6-8 open rides a year http://www.grayrockorv.com Morris Mountain ORV -open almost every weekend www.morrismountainorv.com Little River Canyon http://www.nps.gov/liri/ Hurricane Creek Tuscaloosa, AL - Great short paddling trip! 10min form my house! http://www.hurricanecreek.org/ Mountain Side Off Road Park http://www.mountainsideoffroadpark.com ARKANSAS Superlift ORV Park http://www.orvpark.com/ Ouachita National Forest http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/ouachita/ write up: http://expeditionportal.com/forum/sh...light=Ouachita write up: http://expeditionportal.com/forum/sh...light=Ouachita Byrd's Adventure Center - Cass Arkansas http://www.byrdsadventurecenter.com/motoring.htm FLORIDA Hard Rock Cycle Park www.hardrockmx.com/ L-Cross http://www.l-cross.com GEORIGA River Rock ORV Park http://www.riverrockorv.com Beasley Knob OHV Trail System / Chattahoochee-Oconee National Forests http://www.fs.fed.us/conf/rec/ohv/beasley.shtml http://www.georgiaoffroad.com/facili...?facilityid=50 ILLINOIS Insane Terrain Off Road Park http://www.thecliffsinsaneterrain.com INDIANA Badlands Off Road Park, IN http://www.badlandsoffroad.com Redbird state riding area http://www.redbirdsra.com KENTUCKY Harlan WOOOHOOO!!! Putney Trailhead This is the trail head with cabins and camping. It's further from the hardcore trails but it's a nicer (non-free) place to stay. http://www.harlancountycampground.com/ Land Between the Lakes National Rec Area http://www.lbl.org/Home.html Black Mountain http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/r...ntain-ky-.html HillzNHollarz http://www.hillznhollarz.com/ LOUSIANA Catahoula Recreation http://www.atvdirtbikerecreation.com/ Massachusetts Cape Cod National Sea Shore. http://www.nps.gov/caco/ MAINE North Maine Woods - Multiple Use Management Area http://www.northmainewoods.org/ MARYLAND/ VA Assateague Island National Park http://www.nps.gov/asis/planyourvisit/osv.htm MICHIGAN The Mounds ORV Area http://geneseecountyparks.org/mounds.htm Drummond Island in Michigans Upper Pennisula: http://www.turtleridgeorv.com/ 10 minutes north of Sault Saint Marie, Michigan (just over the border in Canada) http://www.saulttrusseloffroad.com/ PICS Sault Trussel Offroad Park - more pics/vids added to 2nd post - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest Twisted Trails http://twistedtrailsoffroadpark.com/ Rocks and Valleys Harrison, MI http://www.rocksandvalleys.com/ Bundy Hill Off Road Park http://www.bundyhilloffroad.com/ Michigan Moto Mania . Harrison Mi. Bikes Quads and various vehicles michiganmotomania.com/ Silver Lake Sand Dunes Mears, MI. http://www.silverlakesanddunes.net/ MINNISOTA Iron Range OHV Park http://www.gilbertmn.org/ohvra.htm Appleton OHV Park http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/ohv/appleton MISSOURI Rockport Off Road Park (Hannibal Rock), MO http://www.rorp.com/homepage.html Flat Nasty Off Road Park http://www.flatnasty.net SMORR - South Missouri Off Road Ranch http://smorr.net NEW HAMPSHIRE White Mountain National Forest http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/forests/white_mountain/ NEW JERSERY Pine Barrens http://www.njpinebarrens.com/ NORTH CAROLINA Tellico TN/NC http://www.tellico4x4.com/tellico-trails.php Nantahala National Forest http://www.main.nc.us/graham/hiking/rangerhq.html The Outer Banks Vehicle Beach Access http://www.outerbanks.org/visitor_se...d_vehicles.asp Cape Lookout Island/ Adventure http://www.nps.gov/calo/ write up: http://expeditionportal.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=11979 Uwharrie (Eldorado Outpost) http://www.sfwda.org/trails/uwharrie/index.html The Farm This is the official website: http://bigdixieboggers.com/thefarm.html This is private property. Do not wheel without permission. Open events are typically posted here: http://www.nc4x4.com/forums/forumdis...sprune=30&f=24 OKLAHOMA Disney, OK http://www.extreme4wheelin.com/ Clayton, OK PENNSYLVANIA Bald Eagle State Forest http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/forestry...baldeagle.aspx Write up: Bald Eagle State Forest, 11/18/06 - Expedition Portal Forum Rausch Creek ORV Park http://www.rauschcreekoffroadpark.org/ Allegheny National Forest http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/forests/alle...on/atv_trails/ Grand Canyon of Pennsylvania http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/STATEPAR....aspx#wildlife Great Allegheny Passage Connecting Cumberland, MD and Pittsburgh, PA http://www.atatrail.org/ whole trail: http://www.nps.gov/pohe/ Rock Run Recreation Area info www.wpa4xtrac.org Rhode Island Arcadia Management Area http://www.riparks.com/arcadia.htm SOUTH CAROLINA Gulches ORV Park http://www.gulchesorvpark.com TENNESSEE Big South Fork National River and Recreation Area http://www.nps.gov/biso/index.htm write up: http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/showpo...33&postcount=2 Cherokee National Forest http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/cherokee/ Wheelin in the Country ORV Park http://www.wheelininthecountry.com/ Wooly's Off Road http://www.woolysoffroad.com/ Mayhem Off Road Park Pics: http://community.webshots.com/user/zukezilla Coon Creek Off Road Park http://www.ccorv.com Coal Creek OHV (Windrock) http://www.coalcreekohv.com/ TEXAS Katemcy Rocks http://katemcyrocks.com Trees Ranch Very Cool!!! I liked it better than Katemcy!!! http://www.treesranchoffroad.com Barnwell Mountain Recreational Area http://www.barnwellmountainra.com/ General Sams Off Road Park MUD HELL HOLE http://www.generalsams.com Boulder Creek Trail Park http://www.bouldercreekfarms.org/offroad.html VERMONT Trans Vermont http://www.vtxs.org/tvtx.htm Locals: http://expeditionportal.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10026 VIRGINIA Big Dogs Gore open four times a year http://www.bigdogsoffroad.com/ George Washington National Forest http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/gwj/ pics: http://www.davenjeip.net/pictures.html write up: http://www.4x4icon.com/offroad/01010...wine/index.htm WEST VIRGINIA Monongahela National Forest http://expeditionportal.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=11978 cool camera: http://www.fsvisimages.com/doso1/doso1.html Blackwater Falls State Park http://www.blackwaterfalls.com/

2016 – Top Off Road Trails & Parks in America With over 12,600 responses from off-roading enthusiasts, PartCatalog has compiled the top off road trails and rides of choice for 39 states in America. Through Facebook correspondence and word of mouth from parks, trails, and off-roading clubs, respondents learned about the survey and were excited to share their top picks for The 2016 Top Off Road Trails & Parks in America. To compile these results, we asked three questions: What state do you live in? What is your ride of choice? What are the Top 5 Off Road destinations? Alabama 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Stony Lonesome – Bremen, AL #2 Hawk Pride Mountain – Tuscumbia, AL #3 Choccolocco Mountain – Jacksonville, AL #4 Gray Rock – Gardendale, AL #5 Top Trails – Talladega, AL Ride of Choice #1 Polaris RZR #2 Buggy #3 Can Am Maverick Arkansas 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Hot Springs ORV – Hot Springs, AR #2 Mack’s Pines – Dover, AR #3 Hillarosa – Blevins, AR #4 Carter’s OffRoad – Alexander, AR #5 Byrd’s Adventure Center – Ozark, AR Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon #3 Polaris RZR Arizona 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Lake Havasu – Lake Havasu City, AZ #2 Broken Arrow – Sedona, AZ #3 President’s Choice – Parker, AZ #4 Arizona Peace Trail – Quartzsite, AZ #5 Charouleau Gap – Tucson, AZ Ride of Choice #1 Wrangler Rubicon #2 Jeep Wrangler #3 Arctic Cat California 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Rubicon – Georgetown, CA #2 Ocotillo Wells – Borrego Springs, CA #3 Johnson Valley – Johnson Valley, CA #4 Glamis Sand Dunes – El Centro, CA #5 Big Bear (John Bull) – Big Bear City, CA Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Wrangler Rubicon #3 Motorcycle or ATV Colorado 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Black Bear Pass – Telluride, CO #2 Imogene Pass – Ouray, CO #3 Ouray – Ouray, CO #4 Taylor Park – Tincup, CO #5 Alpine Loop – Telluride, CO Ride of Choice #1 Wrangler Rubicon #2 Jeep Wrangler #3 Toyota Land Cruiser Florida 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Ocala National Forest – Silver Springs, FL #2 Florida Cracker Ranch – Bunnell, FL #3 Hog Waller – Palatka, FL #4 Hardrock – Ocala, FL #5 Iron Horse Mud Ranch – Perry, FL Ride of Choice #1 Polaris RZR #2 Can Am Outlander #3 Jeep Wrangler Georgia 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Durhamtown – Union Point, GA #2 Highland Park – Cedartown, GA #3 Possum Creek – Ray City, GA #4 Fat Daddy’s – Blairsville, GA #5 Moccasin Creek – Blackshear, GA Ride of Choice #1 Polaris RZR #2 Motorcycle or ATV #3 Yamaha Rhino Illinois 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 The Cliffs Insane Terrain – Marseilles, IL #2 Two Rivers Jeep Club – Pittsfield, IL #3 Little Egypt – Marion, IL #4 Fox Valley Off Road – Ottawa, IL #5 South Fork – Taylorville, IL Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Wrangler Rubicon #3 Jeep YJ Indiana 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Badlands – Attica, IN #2 Haspin Acres – Laurel, IN #3 Redbird – Linton, IN #4 Interlake – Lynnville, IN #5 Lawrence County Recreational Park – Springville, IN Ride of Choice #1 Polaris RZR #2 Motorcycle or ATV #3 Jeep Wrangler Kansas 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Kansas Rocks – Mapleton, KS #2 Tuttle Creek ORV – Randolph, KS #3 Central Kansas Offroad – Florence, KS #4 Kansas Badlands – South Haven, KS #5 Syracuse Sand Dunes – Syracuse, KS Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Wrangler Rubicon #3 Jeep Cherokee Kentucky 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Black Mountain – Harlan, KY #2 Dirty Turtle – Bedford, KY #3 Wildcat Offroad Park – London, KY #4 Rush Offroad – Rush, KY #5 Turkey Bay – Golden Pond, KY Ride of Choice #1 Polaris RZR #2 Kawasaki Teryx #3 Polaris Sportsman Louisiana 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Muddy Bottoms – Sarepta, LA #2 Catahoula Recreation Area – Sicily Island, LA #3 Tower Trax – Fluker, LA #4 South Toledo – Anacoco, LA #5 Cooterville – Delhi, LA Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Polaris RZR #3 Rock Bouncer Massachusetts 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Gremlin Graveyard – Sturbridge, MA #2 Old Florida Road – Adams, MA #3 Cape Cod National Seashore – Wellfleet, MA #4 Pittsfield State Forest – Pittsfield, MA #5 Nauset Beach – East Orleans, MA Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon #3 Nissan Xterra Maine 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Rocky Mountain Terrain Park – Carthage, ME #2 Wicked Hills – South China, ME #3 Maine Jeep Jamboree – Bethel, ME #4 Aroostook – Presque Isle, ME #5 Down East Sunrise – Ellsworth, ME Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Cherokee #2 Motorcycle or ATV #3 Four Wheeler Maryland 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Assateague Island Beach – Berlin, MD #2 Budds Creek – Mechanicsville, MD #3 Backbone – Oakland, MD #4 Savage River – Grantsville, MD #5 Piney Mountain – Friendsville, MD Ride of Choice #1 Polaris RZR #2 Motorcycle or ATV #3 Jeep Wrangler Michigan 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Bundy Hill – Jerome, MI #2 Rocks & Valleys – Harrison, MI #3 Silver Lake – Mears, MI #4 Drummond Island – Drummond, MI #5 Washita Offroad Park – Farmington, MI Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Wrangler Rubicon #3 Motorcycle or ATV Minnesota 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Iron Range OHV Area – Gilbert, MN #2 Snake Creek – Kellogg, MN #3 Spider Lake – Pine River, MN #4 Appleton OHV Park – Appleton, MN #5 Moose Walk – Finland, MN Ride of Choice #1 Arctic Cat #2 Jeep CJ-7 #3 Polaris Sportsman Mississippi 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Mudslangers – Woodland, MS #2 Muddy Joe’s – Kiln, MS #3 Red Creek Offroad – Perkinston, MS #4 Barnyard Mudboggers – Fulton, MS #5 Burdens Creek – Mount Olive, MS Ride of Choice #1 Polaris RZR #2 Honda Rancher #3 Land Cruiser Missouri 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 SMORR – Seymour, MO #2 Flat Nasty – Jadwin, MO #3 Moonlight Racing – Sullivan, MO #4 Rush Springs – Pineville, MO #5 Bricks – Poplar Bluff, MO Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon #3 Jeep Cherokee Nebraska 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Off Road Ranch – Norfolk, NE #2 Dismal River Trail – Halsey, NE #3 Hole in the Rock – Escalante, UT, NE #4 White Sands Raceway – Ashland, NE #5 Fiddler Creek MX – Homer, NE Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Wrangler Rubicon #3 Toyota Tacoma Nevada 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Rock Bottom – Logandale, NV #2 Tie Rod Canyon – Las Vegas, NV #3 Hunter Lake Trail – Reno, NV #4 Bronco Falls – Logandale, NV #5 Ryan’s Trail – Nelson, NV Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Toyota FJ Cruiser #3 Motorcycle or ATV New Hampshire 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Field & Forest – Harrisville, NH #2 Little Monadnock Family Trails – Troy, NH #3 Ride the Wilds – Coos County, NH #4 Carnage Hill – Richmond, NH #5 Classic 6 Roads – New Hampshire, NH Ride of Choice #1 Wrangler Rubicon #2 Ford Bronco #3 Jeep Cherokee New Jersey 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Pine Barrens – Hammonton, NJ #2 Wharton State Forest – Hammonton, NJ #3 Island Beach State Park – Seaside Park, NJ #4 Atco MX – Atco, NJ #5 Butterfly Bogs – Jackson, NJ Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon #3 Jeep Cherokee New Mexico 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Chokecherry Canyon – Farmington, NM #2 Las Cruces – Las Cruces, NM #3 Chama – Chama, NM #4 Gordy’s Hill – Socorro, NM #5 Red River Offroad – Red River, NM Ride of Choice #1 Wrangler Rubicon #2 Polaris RZR #3 Jeep Wrangler New York 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Tall Pines – Andover, NY #2 Tar Hollow – Hancock, NY #3 Demon Run Trails – Cath, NY #4 Whispering Pines Hideaway – Lyons, NY #5 Lewis County (Tug Hill) – Lowville, NY Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Motorcycle or ATV #3 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon North Carolina 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Uwharrie National Forest – Uwharrie, NC #2 Tellico – Murphy, NC #3 Brown Mountain – Morganton, NC #4 Dirt City USA – Polkton, NC #5 Brushy Mountain – Taylorsville, NC Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Polaris RZR #3 Motorcycle or ATV Ohio 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Southington Offroad Park – Garrettsville, OH #2 Wellsville – Wellsville, OH #3 Yankee Lake – Brookfield, OH #4 Phoenix Offroad Park – Wintersville, OH #5 Powerline Park – St Clairsville, OH Ride of Choice #1 Polaris RZR #2 Jeep Wrangler #3 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Oklahoma 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Disney (Hogan’s) – Disney, OK #2 Arbuckle – Mill Creek, OK #3 Clayton (Green Acres) – Clayton, OK #4 Little Sahara – Waynoka, OK #5 Sundog Trails – Lexington, OK Ride of Choice #1 Polaris RZR #2 Jeep Wrangler #3 Wrangler Rubicon Oregon 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Oregon Dunes – Reedsport, OR #2 Blue Ridge Trails – Coos Bay, OR #3 Christmas Valley Sand Dunes – Christmas Valley, OR #4 Santiam Pass – Mckenzie Bridge, OR #5 Firebreak Five – Tillamook, OR Ride of Choice #1 Wrangler Rubicon #2 Jeep YJ #3 Toyota Land Cruiser Pennsylvania 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Rausch Creek – Tremont, PA #2 Anthracite Adv Area – Coal Township, PA #3 Majestic Trails – Smethport, PA #4 Rock Run Recreation – Patton, PA #5 New Lost Trails (Ride Lost Trails) – Dunmore, PA Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Wrangler Rubicon #3 Jeep Cherokee South Carolina 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Carolina Adventure World – Winnsboro, SC #2 Gulches Offroad Park – Waterloo, SC #3 Battery Park – Nesmith, SC #4 Pine Grove – Westminster, SC #5 Sand Hill – Chesterfield, SC Ride of Choice #1 Polaris RZR #2 Toyota Land Cruiser #3 Kawasaki Teryx South Dakota 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Black Hills – Custer, SD #2 Talsma’s Trail – Avon, SD #3 Oahe Downstream – Fort Pierre, SD #4 Baja ORV – Interior, SD #5 Revheim Bay – Mobridge, SD Ride of Choice #1 Wrangler Rubicon #2 Polaris Ranger #3 Jeep Wrangler Tennessee 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Windrock – Oliver Springs, TN #2 Ride Royal Blue – Pioneer, TN #3 Brimstone – Huntsville, TN #4 Adventure Offroad Park – Pittsburg, TN #5 Golden Mountain – Sparta, TN Ride of Choice #1 Polaris RZR #2 Jeep Wrangler #3 Buggy/Rock Bouncer Texas 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Hidden Falls Adv Park – Marble Falls, TX #2 Wolf Caves – Mason, TX #3 Barnwell Mountain – Gilmer, TX #4 Katemcy Rocks – Mason, TX #5 Bridgeport OHV – Bridgeport, TX Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Wrangler Rubicon #3 Jeep CJ-7 Utah 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Moab – Moab, UT #2 Sand Hollow – Hurricane, UT #3 Hell’s Revenge – Grand County, UT #4 Paiute Trails – Maryville, UT #5 Behind the Rocks – Moab, UT Ride of Choice #1 Land Cruiser #2 Toyota 4Runner #3 Land Rover Virginia – 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Big Dogs – Gore, VA #2 George Wash Natl Forest – Hollins, VA #3 Red Cloud – Woodbridge, VA #4 Spearhead Trails – Norton, VA #5 Potts Mountain – Covington, VA Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Wrangler #2 Wrangler Rubicon #3 Nissan Xterra Washington – 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Moses Lake Mud Flats and Sand Dunes – Grant, WA #2 Walker Valley – Mt Vernon, WA #3 Evans Creek ORV – Carbonado, WA #4 Beverly Dunes – Royal City, WA #5 Juniper Dunes – Pasco, WA Ride of Choice #1 Jeep Grand Cherokee #2 Chevrolet Blazer #3 Polaris RZR West Virginia – 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Hatfield McCoys – Lyburn, WV #2 Chaos Offroad Park – Capon Bridge, WV #3 Burning Rock – Tams, WV #4 King Knob – Philippi, WV #5 Bear Wallow – Logan, WV Ride of Choice #1 Can Am Commander #2 Polaris RZR #3 Jeep Wrangler Wisconsin – 2016 Top Off Road Trails #1 Black River State Forest – Jackson County, WI #2 Cheese County Trails – Monroe, WI #3 Eagle River – Eagle River, WI #4 Florence County – Florence, WI #5 Apple Valley – New Auburn, WI Ride of Choice #1 Wrangler Rubicon #2 Jeep Wrangler #3 Honda Pioneer REFERENCE SOURCE: https://www.partcatalog.com/blog/top-off-road-trails-in-america/

Offroad parks typically require offroad vehicles with safety belts to have an offroad flag/whip attached to the front of the vehicle but the question is how? Rago Fabrication has a clevis mount you could use if that is available Pretty simple install and run yea around $60 Another option is if you have a bullbar on your front bumper you could utilize something like this from Nilight This is also a very easy install and runs only about $14. On the 5thgen 4Runner with the c4 Front Bumper.. the Rago Fabrication mount to clevis does not work. You could get the mount to connect (even though super tight fit) but the whip would be pointing almost straight out instead of straight vertical. Just not good. Haven't tried the bullbar attachment yet. A third option is getting some flatbar from Home Depot, some tractor implement paint and some gas pipe insulation (1/2") and mounting this flatbar somehow. I ordered the materials today and should get by Thursday. Cutting it close since my first event I need this flag is on Saturday.

Some of us with K5’s would like to show the everyday Jeep’s that we can hang with them on the trails but our biggest issue is we are so much bigger than they are. So stock JK vs stock K5 (2nd gen) Length: 13.8 ft vs 16.1ft (diff 2.5 ft) Width: 6.2 ft vs 6.6 ft (diff 4″) Height: 5.11 ft vs 6.2 ft (diff 3″) Wheelbase: 7.11 ft vs 8.9 ft (diff 10″) so not a HUGE difference but none the less the K5 is bigger but the huge difference is.. they aren’t nearly as common. Everyone can go buy a jeep done and ready to go on the trails. It’s getting harder and harder to find a K5 thats in good condition and once you do, parts are getting harder and harder to find. Most offroad supply stores are focused 99% on new Jeeps. Why? Because everyone has one… not very unique.

Here is a great start to see what Michigan DNR has deemed ORV trails that you could enjoy. https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-350-79119_79148---,00.html

Looks like I'm overdue for an update. Jeep is still a work in progress. Ran out of funds and seeing how I have been buying everything new for the Jeep, it gets expensive. Ended up not rebuilding the AMC20 rear axle and instead buying a Dana44 wide track axle with Yukon Locker and new 3:54 gearing from Unlimited Offroad and also buying a widetrack rebuilt Dana30 front axle to replace the narrow track axles the 79 CJ came with. I already had a Dana30 front but it was a narrow track axle and I wanted the wider stance the Jeep's went to with the YJ's for stability. My future plans. I really want to put a Chevy v8 with a Dana 300 transfer case and an AX15 5spd Manila trans one day. I like what Novak offers but that's a ways down the road. For now, the 4spd manual on the 4.2L inline 6cyl will have to do (unless I blow it) The jeep runs great with a DUI HEI distributor, the motorcraft carb and an electric fan. (The body lift with the mechanical fan wasn't cooling the radiator) Also replaced the oil pump and screen just to be on the safe side. New Oil Pan and gasket. The mechanical clutch doesn't work because of the stupid body lift (angle is all off). So working on putting a hydraulic clutch in which makes more sense anyhow... More reliable. Downfall is the stock pedals won't work. The master clutch cylinder arm has nowhere to attach to. You are suppose to have pedals from 81-86 that had a 4cylinder since they came with a hydraulic clutch. Then it's an easy bolt in. On the prowl for pedals and I think I'm going to try YJ pedals if I don't find something soon. It's winter time and the hard top I have is in very bad condition and doesn't fit the jeep real good. It is hitting the rollbar. Ordered a new one from Rally Tops which was close to $1800 with shipping. I like the quality of there tops and satisfaction guaranteed. They say 2-3 weeks for delivery and I'm in it for a little less than 2k. Still need to fix the oil pressure gauge.. Pretty sure it's the sending unit since a new gauge doesn't work either. Need to bolt down the center console Need new seats to support the 5point harness Temp and fuel gauge doesn't work either but I have a new assembly to try. Items installed already MotorCraft 2100 JEEP Carb 258/4.2 Non-Smog 1.08 DUI HEI DISTRUBUTOR 258 6 CYL-BLUE Centech Wiring Harness (JP-78-83D) Rock Hard Rear Bumper with Lighted License Plate Mount Dana 44 with Yukon locker (3.54) Dana 30 added new WARN Hubs (3.54) 2.5" Skyjacker Suspension kit (springs, ubolts, shocks) New Waterpump New Mean Green Alternator (MG7127) New SOLENOID-STARTER MOTOR New Plugs New Autozone Clutch End Links, Extended Sway Bar (Quick Double Disconnect) 2"-2.5" Front, Skyjacker Moog D30 D44 Upper & Lower Ball Joints Cardone Brake Calipers 4181 - front TSM D44 Rear Calipers Pair - rear Electric Fan (since body lift throws the clutch belt driven fan off) do they work okay when mudding? Big worry of mine is overheating.. seems to happen often. Desires if budget allows: Seat Belts (I have the back seat to put in so whatever I do in the front, if they offer something for the back I'd like to get it so I can match) Finish installing Centech Wiring to include running wire to Rock Hard Bumper License Plate Mount on Spare Tire. Please check that all dash lights work. Install Taillights Install Wiper Motor, Windsheild, rubbers, etc. etc.. I have Glass for front window Install Mirrors (side and rearview) install Doors Install Hood Install Fenders Install Brakes including Emergency Brake and verify they work Install Front and Rear Driveshafts Verify Two Wheel & Four Wheel Drive works. Verify Heater / Defrost work Install Roll Bar Double-check work done with driveline is solid Install O SH*T Bar for passenger Future: I do plan on adding a winch on the front so if you are doing any electrical, please think of what I may need for the winch. I plan on putting in a radio in a center console of some sort (not sure it matters but wanted to keep you in the loop) Would like a hidden kill switch since its so easy to steal jeep's, I want to have a hidden kill switch somewhere Eventually figure out speakers and radio and New rims and 35" tires

I have always helped my dad where he needed help rebuilding his classic cars. Did I pay attention to what was happening? Not really. I was always busy day dreaming about cute girls and driving. So given that, its surprising I thought I could tackle a rebuild of a 1979 Jeep CJ7 from the ground up. Well I am still attempting this rebuild and this is my comical story to many of you more experienced. This started off like anything else. My cute girlfriend mentioned how she wanted a Jeep and it stirred up those memories of when I had my 85 CJ7 and my 91 Wrangler and I started missing them and then that turned into a desire and a eventually a must have. So I searched craigslist and found this non-running 1979 Jeep CJ7 for $1495. I know, I paid way to much for it but I was in love, with a dream this was going to be an easy fix to get me behind the steering wheel of a Jeep again. After I touched my toes while handing the previous owner $1495 for this adventure we loaded it up and headed home. First thing on my plan was to take it apart and find what we needed to do and prioritize (due to cost). So I put together a First Year plan and Next Year plan to come up with some sort of plan First year plans.. get the L6 running before snow fall this year in event we have the horrible Michigan winter we had last year. Replace the Carpeting with the Bedrug Carpeting ($190) BRCYJ76F Since its missing a rear bumper, add a M.O.R.E rear bumper with Tire Carrier ($1200) JRB700CJ Future plans Choice of getting body work done or just buy a new Aluminum Body Tub ($4030) 5030 plus a Dash Panel with cutouts ($135) 5150 Depending how bad the frame is, new frame ($1800) CJ7 76 79 but what a job. If we go this route, we would just get the frame then the body tub ($4030) and suspension kit ($1050) and start building the basics. Maybe even through some dana 44 axles with electric lockers and disk brakes in there so we can start running brake lines, fuel lines, electrical lines... Suspension, kinda leaning towards the ProComp 4" suspension lift ($1050) with a dropped pitman arm ($97) and a transfer case lowering kit ($46). This replaces the worn leaf springs and worn out shocks. The next day I felt I had to get the Jeep something new on it so it might look better so on September 25, 2014 I ordered $36.99 - BATTERY TRAY KIT BLK CJ $36.99 - TAILGATE HINGE PAIR BLACK 76+ CJ7 $41.99 - AUTOMETER 100PSI OIL PRESSURE SENDING UNIT $ 7.99 - Oil Filter Of course that should of been enough to start with... you know, the basics but nope had to go one step further $799.99 - ROCKHARD REAR BUMPER/TIRE CARRIER FOR 76-06 It obviously needed a couple of other items to replace the 2x4's holding the body up in the back so I also ordered $127.00 - 1 INCH POLY BODYLIFT-BLACK 76-79 CJ5&7 KJ04503BK <--these are back ordered $100.00 - BODY MOUNT CHANNELS-6 PCS FOR 76-86 CJ BDMNTS 6 Now the credit card is melting from over use, decided to evaluate the floor situation and it turned out that it had no floor boards front drivers side or passenger side or rear seating area where they put a metal piece to cover up all the rust holes and did a horrible job welding it in. Wasn't sure what to do when I'm I have nothing for welding and not a metal fabricater anyhow. Well I did what anyone else would of done in my shoes, looked for answers on Google and found the answer. A new MD Juan Jeep Steel body from Quadratec. November 3rd, 2014 my dad and best friend Terry came over and helped me cut the body off the old frame to get it ready for the new body when it arrives. We found it easier to cut it into four pieces to make it easier to carry. Oh yea, I may have gotten a bit crazy with the saws all and cut through some of the cross members on the frame. Whoops, my bad. My cute girlfriend and I start cleaning the frame and axles to try and get some of the heavy rust off. We are using wire brushes, some sort of chemical that made me about pass out after using it for awhile and a lot of elbow grease and then it happened. I could see a crack and pressed on it and it collapsed and after tapping on it with a hammer slightly 12" of metal on the side dropped out. After closer inspection, the frame is rotted from the inside out. No sense of spending all this money installing a new body, new fenders, new windshield on an old frame. It's like getting a boob job on a someone who is stuck in a wheel chair. Yea, you look good but what can you do. I found holes in the frame! The amount of crap that came out of the frame was crazy. Also during this frame cleanup process I found why they had 2x4's holding up the back. My guess is they either had too much weight on a hitch (maybe one of those storage bins on a hitch mount), either way, they had too much weight on the back (probably rusted frame) and it took the back part of the frame off. Here you can see some pictures of there attempt to repair it. So next to order a frame. I was looking at the TDK (Throttle Down Kustoms) CJ Hybrid frame that supports a CJ body but the suspension of a TJ so coil suspension which will provide a much nicer ride. Of course its $2500 + $800 for shipping and handling and its a major job. Since I have no idea what I'm doing and after talking the TDK owner (Jeremy). He brought up alot of good points, mainly the one where its very very expensive (you have to buy new axels (supporting those coil over springs) and a new suspension kit for a TJ is also a bit pricey. Alot goes on when you move to that suspension. Yes it would be awesome but I probably won't ever do the extreme rock crawling that would facilitate such an awesome/expensive suspension. Yea, I know I may regret not just doing it but its a money thing at this point. I ordered a new TDK CJ7 wide-track frame with shock towers so I can use my narrow track axles but can switch to a wide track axle later if I want. Also the frame is going to come with the YJ shackel reversal so I can use YJ springs for a softer ride. On the left you can see it as it arrived (minus the frame that was holding everything in place. On the right is after I sprayed the inside with Eastwood Undercoating spray and apply por-15 black paint. 2 weeks before it shows up. ($2105 for frame + $515 shipping) I wanted it to be galvanized but the place Jeremy from TDK sends the frames to get galvanized is shut down for upgrades until beginning of 2015... oh well, if I did decide to get it done there are a whole two choices in Michigan Galvanizers Inc 12600 Arnold, Redford, MI 48239 (313) 535-2600 National Galvanizing 1500 Telb St, Monroe, MI 48162 (734) 243-1882 Then while laying in bed I ordered a skyjacker softride suspension kit and new motor mounts. Once Credit Card Santa delivers all these goodies I can then begin swapping everything over from the old frame. To prep I'm going to start loosening everything up since everything is so rusted up, it takes longer than normal. FILE ATTACH MANUAL There was much time spent on trying to figure out what axles did I get with this CJ7. I thought the rear was an AMC 20 (which I heard is REALLY REALLY bad because its a 2 piece very breakable design). I was correct, it was a AMC 20 I found some solutions to fix the two piece AMC20 axle to make it more robust $350 Omix-ADA 16530.20 AXLE KT 1-PC NT A20 16530.20 - 7071K OR $361 Yukon Gear & Axle YCJS [21393] So I'm off to Unlimited Offroad to rebuilt my front axle and do one of these repairs on my rear axle.

What an awesome event which was alot of fun Friday and Saturday.. still got tonights banquet dinner and raffle